tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7146512.post7748477922162856427..comments2024-03-12T22:31:46.500-04:00Comments on What Would Phoebe Do?: Nebbishim AshkenazimPhoebe Maltz Bovyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17996039330841139883noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7146512.post-51793520668044866972007-10-25T09:49:00.000-04:002007-10-25T09:49:00.000-04:00Reform does have a long tradition of social activi...Reform does have a long tradition of social activism. Our temple is in the process of renewing that tradition.<BR/><BR/>What I was referring to in a flip way was the tendancy of the movement now to "Conservative" up their religious practices. There's a lot more Hebrew in the services, a lot more Sephardim stuff, in many temples you see a lot of yalmukas and all the other trappings. My point is it seems to me that the movement has abandoned the classical traditions and are trying to show the rest of the Jewish world that we can be "just like them.", the conservative and orthodox movement.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7146512.post-77070163715039366932007-10-24T11:56:00.000-04:002007-10-24T11:56:00.000-04:00"neo con version of Reform."I thought Reform was a..."neo con version of Reform."<BR/><BR/>I thought Reform was about being super-lefty? At least that was my experience with the movement.Phoebe Maltz Bovyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17996039330841139883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7146512.post-3949784026726120992007-10-24T11:51:00.000-04:002007-10-24T11:51:00.000-04:00I live in Chicago's North Shore and grew up in the...I live in Chicago's North Shore and grew up in the East in a very traditional ashkenzim environment so if I could offer the following?<BR/><BR/>A lot of the Jewish neocons we see now are also third, fourth or fifth generation so they are pretty far removed from the older ashkenazim traditions. Also, at least here in the land of the sleek, well endowed and heavily entitled, neocon politics would appeal because it sounds good, and is easy to understand because of the generalizations it relies on. <BR/><BR/>More traditional thinking like that of Roth or Allen requires the ability and desire to understand the grey area in between the lines. These men also tend to belong to the Convservative or Orthodox movement, but they belong there by default - it's where they grew up and they don't necessarily understand their movements background and underpinings. If they are Reform, I would bet dollars to donuts that their synogogue now practices the super hyped up extra crunchy neo con version of Reform.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7146512.post-21902609393840709852007-10-23T11:09:00.000-04:002007-10-23T11:09:00.000-04:00Absolutely--when's good?Absolutely--when's good?Phoebe Maltz Bovyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17996039330841139883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7146512.post-15368467914133491852007-10-23T00:38:00.000-04:002007-10-23T00:38:00.000-04:00I'd be happy settling down with a nice jewish boy....I'd be happy settling down with a nice jewish boy.<BR/><BR/>Not that that's especially relevant.<BR/><BR/>(Hi! How's life? We should do something, sometime...)Nickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14363311128428661742noreply@blogger.com