tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7146512.post5584653954131464301..comments2024-03-12T22:31:46.500-04:00Comments on What Would Phoebe Do?: How to write a conservative article about educationPhoebe Maltz Bovyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17996039330841139883noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7146512.post-43506107254448883732008-03-27T20:59:00.000-04:002008-03-27T20:59:00.000-04:00What ever happened to all of the hand wringing abo...What ever happened to all of the hand wringing about "beer and circuses" and how college sports were ruining collegiate life?<BR/><BR/>I say let the colleges be run by the liberals. Most students graduate and lead normal productive lives without being affected too badly by being exposed to academia. The most radical professors end up being negative examples for students.<BR/><BR/>A lot of people I knew went into college being fairly liberal and ending up graduating into more moderate and tolerant positions.C. Hedgeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07373242280268570221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7146512.post-31212944085711183602008-03-27T11:52:00.000-04:002008-03-27T11:52:00.000-04:00Hayden, the problem you face is that "intellectual...Hayden, the problem you face is that "intellectual diversity" is a code word for creationism and other forms of, well, bullshit. Conservatives had their chance to be honest about their crusade for "diversity" and they blew it.<BR/><BR/>Nobody wants to be forced to hear lies interspersed with the truth in their curriculum. If you think they should be, please, start your own colleges.Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08962290643747011937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7146512.post-45709850948352418552008-03-27T11:24:00.000-04:002008-03-27T11:24:00.000-04:00I remember, about 1965 or 66, a big article in New...I remember, about 1965 or 66, a big article in Newsweek about promiscuous campus sex, documenting the decline and fall during recent decades. Question: when did campus morality "recover" before its more recent fall? Or has it simply been downhill all the way?Steve Muhlbergerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18136005762428407135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7146512.post-87609765204400049152008-03-27T08:46:00.000-04:002008-03-27T08:46:00.000-04:00"...and this, via LG&M, is one of the best posts I..."...and this, via LG&M, is one of the best posts I've read this year. So good, in fact, that your time is better spent there than here.<BR/><BR/>So, just like a Seinfeld episode, there are no hugs and no lessons at the end.<BR/><BR/>Go away."<BR/><BR/>TBogg said so!<BR/><BR/>Most excellent Phoebe. I suggest you copyright the template and sue the hell out of everyone who writes the piece without sending you your fee....<BR/><BR/>/GWPDA, yclept Irate HistorianAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7146512.post-24514621477319621182008-03-26T18:11:00.000-04:002008-03-26T18:11:00.000-04:00A close friend of mine, and a very devout Christia...A close friend of mine, and a very devout Christian who goes to a very highly ranked liberal arts college, told me that the professor of his REQUIRED "Beastiality-Studies" class is a militant lesbian who requires every student, in order to pass, to "hook-up" with at least one same-sex member of a non-human species - preferably in front of a fire fueled by classics written by "dead white men". <BR/><BR/>The horror. The horror.Todd Olsenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05797620332287136460noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7146512.post-49237433982573877262008-03-26T15:19:00.000-04:002008-03-26T15:19:00.000-04:00How about the Illiad - The deception and seduction...How about the Illiad - The deception and seduction of Zeus, on the part of Hera,<BR/><BR/>Plato worries that about this - He does not want future leaders to be exposed to such cyncial gamesmanship and sexual immorality among the gods.<BR/><BR/>Here you have Homer and Plato - two classics that would presumably rankle the rightis calling for more classics classes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7146512.post-77437168978324347472008-03-26T14:24:00.000-04:002008-03-26T14:24:00.000-04:00"With today's young people wearing their pants aro..."With today's young people wearing their pants around their ankles, it's no wonder that the charming rituals of courtship are as rare as finding Shakespeare on a required reading list. The whole sordid hook-up culture - 'rainbow' parties, oral sex, New Kids on the Block, oral sex - are all symptoms of an illness that sprang full-blown from the PC police that turned our halls of academe into halls of aca-shame. Nowadays it's 27% more likely to find students attending a performance of The Vagina Monologues than a performance of Aeschylus: liberal academics would shun any scholar that prefers the work of a "Dead White Male." <BR/><BR/>This is too easy. I can haz wingnut welfare?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7146512.post-9212062818723717962008-03-26T09:06:00.000-04:002008-03-26T09:06:00.000-04:00Is there an article or book describing and critiqu...Is there an article or book describing and critiquing the modern university that you do admire?Withywindlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11465319711207992232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7146512.post-88095512876594747162008-03-25T21:47:00.000-04:002008-03-25T21:47:00.000-04:00-I do share some of the 'conservative' criticisms ...-I do share some of the 'conservative' criticisms of academia. My problem is how these criticisms are typically expressed in conservative publications. Nearly every time I start reading a conservative article about American university life, I find myself nodding along fine until it goes off the conserva-rant deep end in one of the ways mentioned in this post. It's apparently impossible to bemoan the loss of the Great Books without complaining about coed dorms and promiscuity. Sensible criticisms degenerate into mindless Archie Bunker blather. <BR/><BR/>-Too many things prompted this post for links. But my "conserva-rants" tag will provide examples.Phoebe Maltz Bovyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17996039330841139883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7146512.post-15004740570450878822008-03-25T19:19:00.000-04:002008-03-25T19:19:00.000-04:00Did something in particular prompt this post?Did something in particular prompt this post?FLGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04153989000780677971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7146512.post-58273300203208838282008-03-25T19:12:00.000-04:002008-03-25T19:12:00.000-04:00Phoebe, I'm hearing your strong aversion to rea...Phoebe,<BR/> I'm hearing your strong aversion to reactionary, dismissive thought here. However, and I'm certain you know this, you're expressing the same dismissive spirit here in your post. Clearly American universities are not above reproach, nor criticism from right or left. The essence of the conservative criticism of contemporary academia is about the absence of intellectual diversity, the privileging of of pseudo-scholars (i.e. those who have gone decades without subjecting their work to peer reviewed journals like Cornell West), and the embrace of Marxist social critique. Perhaps you disagree with the conservative points of view, but please explore them with rational responses. I think those are points and worth exploring and writing about. You, as a graduate student at a major university, must have experience with such issues, no?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com