tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7146512.post412491100296099292..comments2024-03-12T22:31:46.500-04:00Comments on What Would Phoebe Do?: The perils of a liberal-arts educationPhoebe Maltz Bovyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17996039330841139883noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7146512.post-49900724618614841312011-02-02T16:46:09.570-05:002011-02-02T16:46:09.570-05:00Anon,
You say you agree, then state the precise o...Anon,<br /><br />You say you agree, then state the precise opposite of what I did!<br /><br />Frank,<br /><br />Glad you appreciated the post!Phoebe Maltz Bovyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17996039330841139883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7146512.post-7529355092227664532011-02-02T15:24:25.689-05:002011-02-02T15:24:25.689-05:00Thanks for your post, Phoebe. I'm one of thos...Thanks for your post, Phoebe. I'm one of those gay-libertarians-who'd-be-conservative-but-for-the-fact-that-they-like-dudes. I've never felt guilty for what I am, and I never will. I try to use whatever gifts I have to make my community a better place, as do most people I know.<br /><br />To the anonymous poster above... you're a close-minded bigot, guilty of the very thing you are trying to generalize about others.Franknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7146512.post-57901493844251963652011-02-02T15:05:10.308-05:002011-02-02T15:05:10.308-05:00Phoebe ... I applaud your post and response here. ...Phoebe ... I applaud your post and response here. I might add that of all the "groups" in the LGBT community the most condescending, selfish and patronizing are the White-Gay-Males. Maybe this is, perhaps, because as the world community is becoming aware of, the white-male element is becoming the minority and they're scared.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7146512.post-83777389611786665952011-02-02T13:33:27.450-05:002011-02-02T13:33:27.450-05:00Gregor,
You're absolutely right that the guy ...Gregor,<br /><br />You're absolutely right that the guy shouldn't get a free pass, and I don't believe I gave him one. My initial assessment of douchiness didn't change, as I get at in the post. But the <i>dynamics</i> of the conversation did. Whereas at first I assumed he had no clue what it was like to be any kind of Other, it was now possible that he was playing at some kind of all-us-Others self-deprecation. Not something I find acceptable - I've <a href="http://whatwouldphoebedo.blogspot.com/2010/08/in-which-im-old-bagel-stick-in-mud.html" rel="nofollow">written</a> about how I don't think being a gay Jewish man makes it OK for someone to write nasty stuff about Jewish women. What I was trying to illustrate with this anecdote is that the leap between thinking someone is an unhyphenated white male and learning that they're gay is a larger one in terms of how much privilege you assume they have than when, for example, one learns that a black woman is also a lesbian.Phoebe Maltz Bovyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17996039330841139883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7146512.post-34398547243577676292011-02-02T11:28:40.432-05:002011-02-02T11:28:40.432-05:00Disappointing that you've succumbed to the sam...Disappointing that you've succumbed to the same kind of social bullying that emanates from all the identity politics debates. Being gay may be tougher than not being gay even for white guys, but what relevance does it bear on his opinions (the dude at the party) on women and Jews? A douche is a douche, because of what they say and who they are. Being gay (or whatever other minority membership one wants to claim) is not inoculation from peer criticism. The more people are allowed to get away with being shitty when they play their identity card, the worse our social discourse gets.Gregornoreply@blogger.com