tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7146512.post2718344092506165953..comments2024-03-12T22:31:46.500-04:00Comments on What Would Phoebe Do?: Catcalling and powerPhoebe Maltz Bovyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17996039330841139883noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7146512.post-83640159317240524222014-11-12T14:10:41.093-05:002014-11-12T14:10:41.093-05:00Moebius,
Agreed that this comes from women as wel...Moebius,<br /><br />Agreed that this comes from women as well, and agreed that it can be annoying without bringing the gender of the instigator into it. That the gender of the recipient is fairly constant does seem relevant. Female space can be invaded in a way that male space cannot.<br /><br />I'd say, though, that there's a big difference between "eat, eat!" from someone you know, and from a stranger. It's not an invasion of space for a relative to talk to you in the first place. But I'd also reiterate that there is some difference between this sort of thing coming from a woman and from a man. It's partly, as I said above, about the lurking sexual element, but it's also that when a woman approaches in this way, there's an element of solidarity. A sense that to be female is to be weight-conscious (and, on that note, expect a post sometime soon on that topic). When a man does it, the issue is more about your weight as a measure of your attractiveness to men.Phoebe Maltz Bovyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17996039330841139883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7146512.post-90747627354173525472014-11-12T13:54:05.585-05:002014-11-12T13:54:05.585-05:00Yeah, what Conor Friedersdorf said. Phoebe, if you...Yeah, what Conor Friedersdorf said. Phoebe, if you'd stripped the encounter you described of all context, it would have applied to every second interaction I've had with my older relatives, especially the female ones: eat, eat, you're too skinny! No sexual element, but nonetheless unwelcome, and there's no graceful way to put an end to it.Moebius Strippernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7146512.post-60005743211313321772014-11-10T19:54:58.999-05:002014-11-10T19:54:58.999-05:00Ooh, good point! Yes, I do think so. There just is...Ooh, good point! <a href="http://whatwouldphoebedo.blogspot.com/2014/02/the-sisterhood-of-maam.html" rel="nofollow">Yes</a>, I do think so. There just isn't (usually) a sexual element, and there's virtually never the threat of sexual violence. Which... might mean "rape culture" is, in some incredibly indirect way, a little bit relevant after all.<br /><br />It would also be worth examining how willing men are to invade the space of other men, something I could only guess about.Phoebe Maltz Bovyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17996039330841139883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7146512.post-47862388760592356732014-11-10T19:48:31.796-05:002014-11-10T19:48:31.796-05:00Do you think women also feel more entitled to inva...Do you think women also feel more entitled to invade the space of other women?Conor Friedersdorfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17829317124033492296noreply@blogger.com